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Sergey Lavrov Address at Don State Technical University (DSTU), Rostov-on-Don, 28 October 2013

1. Regional MFA Outreach at DSTU and Ukrainian Student Ties

Лавров благодарит ректора ДГТУ А.В. Шевченко за совмещение восьмого заседания подкомитета с университетским выступлением — часть региональной работы МИД. Десятки украинских студентов в Ростове; совместные проекты укрепляют гуманитарные связи братских народов.

Lavrov thanks DSTU rector Alexander Shevchenko for hosting a joint session that combines the eighth Russia-Ukraine subcommittee meeting with a university address — part of MFA practice to engage regions, not only capitals. DSTU, one of the South's leading technical universities, cooperates with Ukrainian universities; dozens of Ukrainian citizens study in Rostov. Lavrov frames such joint projects as strengthening humanitarian bonds between brotherly peoples of Russia and Ukraine in the interest of both states.

Мы приехали сюда потому, что МИД опирается на взаимодействие с регионами — важная черта нашего сотрудничества.
We came here because the MFA relies on interaction with regions — an important feature of our work.
Совместные проекты с украинскими учебными заведениями укрепляют гуманитарные связи между нашими странами.
Joint projects with Ukrainian universities strengthen humanitarian ties between our countries.
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2. Eighth Russia-Ukraine Subcommittee and CIS Ukrainian Chairmanship 2014

Восьмое заседание подкомитета межправкомиссии охватило двустороннюю, европейскую и мировую повестку. Особое внимание — СНГ: Украина готовится к председательству в 2014 году; насыщенная программа в Минске получила поддержку России.

The eighth session of the Russia-Ukraine intergovernmental commission subcommittee on international cooperation reviewed the full bilateral, European and global agenda. Special attention went to CIS activity as Ukraine prepares to assume the 2014 chairmanship. At the recent CIS summit in Minsk, Ukrainian representatives presented a rich programme that Russia supported — Lavrov expects it to advance Commonwealth cooperation across multiple fields.

Сегодня мы проводили восьмое заседание подкомитета по международному сотрудничеству в рамках российско-украинской межгосударственной комиссии.
Today we held the eighth session of the subcommittee on international cooperation within the Russia-Ukraine intergovernmental commission.
Программа украинского председательства очень насыщена и позволит продвигать взаимодействие в рамках СНГ вперёд.
Ukraine's chairmanship programme is very rich and will help advance cooperation within the CIS.
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3. Eurasian Integration, EU Association and Sovereign Partner Choice

Откровенно обсуждены подходы России к евразийской интеграции на фоне планов Украины подписать соглашение об ассоциации с ЕС. Россия исходит из суверенного права выбора курса, но ближайшие соседи выигрывают от максимально тесного взаимодействия.

Beyond formal proceedings, ministers held a frank discussion with Ukrainian colleagues on Russia's approach to Eurasian integration within the Customs Union and Common Economic Space of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan — against the backdrop of Ukraine's plans to sign an EU association agreement under the Eastern Partnership. Lavrov reiterates Russia's respect for any country's sovereign right to choose partners and integration paths, while stressing that Russia and Ukraine gain most from the closest possible cooperation across all spheres.

В России исходят из суверенного права любой страны выбирать себе политический курс и партнёров.
Russia proceeds from the sovereign right of any country to choose its political course and partners.
Наши дружеские, очень близкие отношения выигрывают от максимально тесного взаимодействия во всех сферах.
Our friendly, very close relations gain from the closest possible cooperation in all spheres.
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4. December 2012 Strategic Partnership Declaration on Complementary Integration

Напоминается декларация декабря 2012 года о стратегическом партнёрстве: евразийская и европейская интеграция должны быть взаимодополняемы. Интеграция подчинена задаче конкурентоспособности через сопряжение преимуществ на равноправной основе.

Lavrov recalls the December 2012 declaration on the content of Russian-Ukrainian strategic partnership signed during President Putin's visit to Ukraine, which states that integration processes within Eurasian economic integration and within the EU should be mutually complementary. Russia firmly holds that at the current stage, integration must serve competitiveness through coupling comparative advantages — not rushing alignment on unequal terms but engaging European processes from positions worthy of Russia and maximally advantageous for its people.

Россия и Украина выступают за взаимодополняемость интеграционных процессов в рамках евразийской экономической интеграции и в рамках Евросоюза.
Russia and Ukraine stand for the complementarity of integration processes within Eurasian economic integration and within the EU.
На данном этапе интеграция должна быть подчинена задаче повышения конкурентоспособности наших государств.
At this stage integration must serve the task of raising the competitiveness of our states.
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5. Greater Europe From Lisbon to Vladivostok and WTO Norms

Концепция внешней политики 2013 года: главная задача с ЕС — единое экономическое и гуманитарное пространство от Атлантики до Тихого океана. Объективная основа — нормы ВТО, на которых строятся и ЕС, и ЕАЭС.

Russia's updated foreign policy concept approved in February 2013 defines relations with the EU around President Putin's strategic goal of a single economic and humanitarian space from the Atlantic to the Pacific — the Greater Europe vision repeatedly affirmed by EU leaders including Commission President José Manuel Barroso. Lavrov argues objective foundations exist in WTO norms on which both the EU and the emerging Eurasian Economic Union are built; if all European states acted from this long-term vision rather than zero-sum logic, dividing lines could be substantially reduced.

Главной задачей наших отношений с Европейским союзом является продвижение к созданию единого экономического и гуманитарного пространства от Атлантики до Тихого океана.
The main task in our relations with the European Union is advancing a single economic and humanitarian space from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
Объективные основы — нормы ВТО, на которых опираются и ЕС, и создаваемый Евразийский экономический союз.
Objective foundations are WTO norms on which both the EU and the emerging EAEU are based.
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6. Russia-Ukraine Chamber Forum and Gradual Trade Alignment

Недавний форум ТПП России и Украины с участием десяти регионов обеих стран. Голос промышленности, сельского хозяйства и услуг должен быть услышан. Нужно последовательное выравнивание торгово-экономических условий без резких движений.

Lavrov notes a recent forum of Russian and Ukrainian chambers of commerce with representatives from ten regions of both countries, where business voices from industry, agriculture and services discussed integration choices on the ground. He hopes their practical perspective will be heard in policy. Russia favours gradual, step-by-step alignment of trade and economic conditions without abrupt moves — a clear perspective for interaction among all European states including Russia.

Недавно проходил форум торгово-промышленных палат России и Украины с участием представителей десяти регионов наших стран.
A forum of Russian and Ukrainian chambers of commerce recently took place with representatives from ten regions of our countries.
Нужно идти по пути последовательного выравнивания торгово-экономических условий, не делая резких движений.
We must proceed through gradual alignment of trade and economic conditions without abrupt moves.
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7. Polycrisis World Order and Reviving UN Charter Principles

Геополитический ландшафт меняется; кризисные явления приобрели глобальный масштаб. Переходный период даёт шанс заложить архитектуру на нормах международного права, равноправии и коллективных ответах — как заложено в Уставе ООН.

Surveying the global landscape, Lavrov describes a complex, rapidly shifting geopolitical environment where crisis phenomena have acquired genuinely global scale for the first time — humanity is entering a new historical stage beyond Cold War confrontation toward a polycentric world with new centres of economic and political power. The transitional period offers a unique chance to build international architecture on recognised norms of international law, equality, mutual respect and collective answers to global challenges — the approach embedded in the UN Charter from its founding.

Ситуация в мире становится всё более сложной; геополитический ландшафт меняется на глазах.
The situation in the world is becoming ever more complex; the geopolitical landscape is changing before our eyes.
Нужно заложить фундамент архитектуры, которая базировалась бы на общепризнанных нормах международного права и принципах равноправия.
We must lay a foundation of architecture based on recognised norms of international law and principles of equality.
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8. 2014 MFA Consultations Plan Signed at DSTU Session

Подписан план консультаций внешнеполитических ведомств на 2014 год, охватывающий европейскую и международную повестку. Россия будет способствовать успеху декабрьского совета министров ОБСЕ.

At ministerial level Russia and Ukraine signed a 2014 plan of consultations between foreign ministries covering virtually all items on the European and international agenda. Representatives cooperate closely in the Council of Europe and OSCE, where Ukraine holds the 2013 chairmanship. Lavrov pledges active Russian support for a successful early-December OSCE foreign ministers' council meeting producing good decisions to overcome stagnation in the organisation.

Сегодня подписали план консультаций между внешнеполитическими ведомствами стран на 2014 год.
Today we signed a plan of consultations between the foreign ministries for 2014.
Мы будем активно способствовать, чтобы заседание совета министров иностранных дел ОБСЕ завершилось успешно.
We will actively help ensure the OSCE foreign ministers' council meeting ends successfully.
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9. OSCE Stagnation and Ukrainian Chairmanship Reform Agenda

Декабрьский совет ОБСЕ должен преодолеть застойные тенденции и вернуть организацию к принципам Заключительного акта. Россия и Украина как близкие соседи призваны играть особую роль.

Russia expects the December OSCE ministerial to produce decisions overcoming dead-end trends and refocusing the organisation on security commitments affirmed in the Helsinki Final Act and related documents — building a sustainable international architecture unthinkable without dense networks of partnership among states. As close neighbours, Russia and Ukraine are called to play a special role; Lavrov stresses joint work with Ukrainian colleagues across many promising projects agreed at presidential and governmental level.

Предстоящее в начале декабря заседание совета министров иностранных дел ОБСЕ должно завершиться добрыми решениями.
The OSCE foreign ministers' meeting in early December should conclude with good decisions.
Нужно преодоление застойных тенденций в этой организации.
Overcoming stagnation trends in this organisation is needed.
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10. Bilateral Industrial Projects — Space, Sea Launch, An-124 and Kerch Bridge

Перечислены совместные проекты: космос, «Морской старт», «Днепр», производство ядерного топлива, возобновление серийного выпуска Ан-124, мостовой переход через Керченский пролив.

Lavrov lists major joint industrial initiatives: strengthening cooperation in space including Sea Launch and Dnepr programmes already involving nine countries; activating production of nuclear fuel for VVER reactors on Ukrainian territory; resuming serial production of An-124 aircraft; and implementing the Kerch Strait bridge linking Rostov region, Krasnodar and Crimea. These projects span a wide spectrum of sectors and illustrate the depth of Russia-Ukraine economic interdependence.

Уже осуществляются совместные проекты «Морской старт» и программы «Днепр».
Joint Sea Launch and Dnepr programme projects are already under way.
Очень важна реализация проекта создания мостового перехода через Керченский пролив.
Implementation of the Kerch Strait bridge project is very important.
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11. Black Sea Grain Committee and Innovation/Nanotech Cooperation

Договорённость о причерноморском зерновом комитете для согласованной экспортной политики. Продолжается научно-техническое взаимодействие и 15 совместных нанотехнологических проектов.

Ministers welcome agreement to launch a Black Sea grain committee with Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and other possible participants for coordinated export policy and shared infrastructure use. Scientific-technical cooperation continues through coordination of fundamental research between the Russian Academy of Sciences and Ukraine's National Academy, plus fifteen joint nanotechnology projects under the bilateral interaction programme in electronics, nanophotonics and new materials.

Приветствуем договорённость о начале работы по созданию причерноморского зернового комитета.
We welcome the agreement to begin work on creating a Black Sea grain committee.
В рамках программы российско-украинского взаимодействия прорабатываются 15 совместных проектов в сфере нанотехнологий.
Fifteen joint nanotechnology projects are being developed under the Russia-Ukraine interaction programme.
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12. Humanitarian Bonds — Shevchenko Jubilee and Moscow Ukraine Pavilion

Гуманитарное сотрудничество имеет особое значение. В 2014 году — 200-летие Т.Г. Шевченко; в Ростове запланирован фестиваль российско-украинской дружбы. Ожидается возрождение павильона Украины на ВДНХ.

Humanitarian cooperation holds special meaning for citizens of both countries. Rostov region maintains rich non-monetary ties with Ukrainian regions. In 2014 both states will mark the 200th anniversary of Taras Shevchenko's birth with an international Russia-Ukraine friendship festival, literary-musical salons and exhibitions in Rostov. Lavrov also expects revival of the popular Ukraine pavilion at Moscow's All-Russia Exhibition Centre — Rostov, he affirms, will always be open to strengthening strategic partnership.

В будущем году мы вместе будем отмечать 200-летие со дня рождения Тараса Григорьевича Шевченко.
Next year we will together mark the 200th anniversary of Taras Shevchenko's birth.
Ростов был, есть и будет всегда открыт для укрепления стратегического партнёрства.
Rostov was, is and will always be open to strengthening strategic partnership.
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13. Azov-Black Sea Ecology, Shelf Drilling and University Research

Профессор ДГТУ спрашивает о совместном финансировании исследований экосистем Азова и Чёрного моря. Лавров соглашается: мало внимания к сохранению ресурсов, конкуренция за шельф наносит ущерб; нужно объединять усилия.

A DSTU professor asks whether governments will jointly fund cross-border university research on protecting Azov-Black Sea ecosystems. Lavrov agrees the basin — where significant Ukrainian territory lies — faces insufficient EU and international attention to preserving biological resources, while economic competition over shelf drilling causes irreparable harm, citing technogenic disasters in the Kerch Strait. As honorary professor he stresses saving these relatively closed water bodies for future generations outweighs short-term extraction races; Russia supports joint conservation work with Ukraine.

Ключевой обмен
Q A DSTU professor asks whether Moscow and Kyiv will create joint funding for cross-border university research on Azov-Black Sea ecosystem protection, similar to EU framework programmes.
A Lavrov agrees the basin needs combined resources and supports joint conservation — while noting shelf drilling competition and technogenic disasters require urgent coordinated action.
Key exchange
Q A DSTU professor asks whether Moscow and Kyiv will create joint funding for cross-border university research on Azov-Black Sea ecosystem protection, similar to EU framework programmes.
A Lavrov agrees the basin needs combined resources and supports joint conservation — while noting shelf drilling competition and technogenic disasters require urgent coordinated action.
Азовское и Чёрное моря — та среда обитания, где находится значительная часть территории Украины.
The Azov and Black Seas are the habitat where a significant part of Ukraine's territory lies.
Гораздо важнее сохранить два уникальных водоёма для тех поколений, которые придут через сто и триста лет.
It is far more important to preserve these two unique water bodies for generations a hundred and three hundred years from now.
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14. Economic Development vs Environmental Protection and Post-Fukushima Nuclear Standards

Нужно сочетать экономическое развитие с защитой природы современными технологиями. После Фукусимы в России — жёсткая проверка всех АЭС и самые строгие в мире правила. Компании обеих стран разведывают нефть на шельфе.

Responding to ecology questions, Lavrov insists economic development and nature protection must be combined through cutting-edge technology — as humanity has chosen not to freeze in pre-electricity times. After Fukushima, Russia conducted the toughest inspections of all domestic and export-built nuclear plants, producing rules now stricter than some EU standards. Russian and Ukrainian companies responsibly explore oil in Azov and Black Sea waters under international law; Lavrov cites Caspian Trans-Caspian pipeline politics as another case where EU energy diversification clashes with coastal states' ecological consensus.

Ключевой обмен
Q The professor presses for state funding of fundamental science and cross-border university research programmes beyond ecology alone.
A Lavrov affirms development and environmental protection must be combined via modern technology, citing Fukushima inspections and joint shelf exploration under international law.
Key exchange
Q The professor presses for state funding of fundamental science and cross-border university research programmes beyond ecology alone.
A Lavrov affirms development and environmental protection must be combined via modern technology, citing Fukushima inspections and joint shelf exploration under international law.
Нужно сочетать экономическое развитие с защитой природы — это касается практически любого региона земли.
Economic development must be combined with protecting nature — that applies to virtually any region.
После Фукусимы в России провели жёсткую проверку всех атомных электростанций; правила сейчас самые строгие в мире.
After Fukushima Russia conducted tough inspections of all nuclear power plants; our rules are now among the world's strictest.
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15. Visa-Free Travel, Association Agreement and Passport Document Transition

Аспирант спрашивает о визах при евроинтеграции Украины. Лавров: Россия виз не вводит. Евроинтеграция не переносит Украину «в другой регион». Кожара поддерживает сохранение поездок по внутренним документам.

A DSTU postgraduate asks whether Ukraine's European integration could introduce a visa regime ending visa-free trips to Donetsk for football. Lavrov states Russia will not impose visas; after the USSR's collapse visa-free travel with Eastern European and former Soviet republics remained natural, and visas appeared only when countries joined the EU. European integration does not mean Ukraine moves geographically or turns anti-Russian — the association agreement is mainly a reform programme plus a free-trade business chapter. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kozhara adds both countries favour visa-free travel with the EU and want to preserve current mutual travel on internal documents, requesting a transition period for foreign-passport requirements Russia proposes.

Ключевой обмен
Q A postgraduate asks whether Ukraine's EU integration will end visa-free travel to Donetsk for football matches.
A Lavrov says Russia will not introduce visas; Kozhara stresses the association agreement is mainly reforms plus free trade and both sides want to keep current mutual travel arrangements.
Key exchange
Q A postgraduate asks whether Ukraine's EU integration will end visa-free travel to Donetsk for football matches.
A Lavrov says Russia will not introduce visas; Kozhara stresses the association agreement is mainly reforms plus free trade and both sides want to keep current mutual travel arrangements.
Европейская интеграция для Украины не означает, что украинцы возьмут Украину и перенесут в другой регион.
European integration for Ukraine does not mean Ukrainians will take Ukraine and move it to another region.
Российская Федерация визового режима вводить не собирается.
The Russian Federation is not going to introduce a visa regime.
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16. European Civilization Heritage vs Selective Modernisation Without EU Copy-Paste

Лавров: Россия — часть европейской цивилизации, но хочет свою модернизированную экономику, а не слепое воспроизведение всего из ЕС. Критикует технические регламенты Еврокомиссии, вредящие качеству продуктов.

Expanding on integration philosophy, Lavrov argues Russia too is European — today's Europe, Eurasia and North America represent three branches of one civilisation spread eastward by Slavs and westward by Europeans. Russia seeks its own modernised economy and social sphere comfortable like normal European countries, not blind reproduction of every EU reform. He criticises Eurocommission technical regulations harming food quality — mould on Camembert, bans on traditional salo — and rejects copying feed standards that turn pig farming toward industrial waste.

Мы хотим создать свою модернизированную экономику и социальную сферу, а не слепо воспроизводить всё, что делается в Евросоюзе.
We want to build our own modernised economy and social sphere, not blindly reproduce everything done in the EU.
Нынешняя Европа, Евразия и Северная Америка — три ветви одной европейской цивилизации.
Today's Europe, Eurasia and North America are three branches of one European civilisation.
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17. Traditional Values, Christianity and Anti-Nazism Unity with Ukraine

Лавров отвергает вседозволенность как обязательный стандарт; в СЕ и ОБСЕ продвигает уважение традиционных ценностей. С украинскими друзьями — абсолютное единство в отвержении героизации нацизма. День освобождения Киева.

Lavrov rejects importing European social permissiveness — citing OSCE and Council of Europe campaigns for traditional values and religious feelings. He condemns EU constitutional drafts that dropped references to Europe's Christian roots and warns indulgence toward intolerance breeds militant secularism. Russia will never accept that permissiveness in one region must be global standard; nor will it tolerate glorification of Nazism — here Russia is in absolute unity with Ukrainian friends. Lavrov notes the day also marks Kyiv's liberation from fascist occupiers alongside Builder's Day and Komsomol anniversary.

Никогда не согласимся, что потому что вседозволенность приветствуется в одной части мира, все остальные должны этому следовать.
We will never agree that because permissiveness is welcomed in one part of the world everyone else must follow.
Здесь мы с нашими украинскими друзьями абсолютно едины.
Here we are in absolute unity with our Ukrainian friends.
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